Wednesday, January 1, 2020
Kurds and Why...
The Jihad Watch community still seems schizophrenic about Kurds; half the time forgetting that the vast majority of Kurds are mainstream Sunni Muslims (which might not be a bad thing to those in the Western Mainstream who remain deformed by politically correct multi-culturalism but, of course, should be incriminating to those who are supposed to have been educating themselves about Islam all these years), and the other half of the time apparently remembering.
I've noted this before on this blog (and more recently here). Just the other day, it cropped up again, when I saw this story posted at Jihad Watch:
UK: Armed police arrest father for sending $200 to his son who fought with Kurdish forces against jihadis
And what was Robert Spencer's editorial remark? After quoting this Kurdish Muslim jihadist's father --
“ISIS fighters get to come home and settle back down no problem. Yet my son and me are treated like terrorists. The UK has got its priorities all wrong.”
-- Robert wrote:
Yes. That has been true for a very long time now.
And yet on Robert's own Jihad Watch, we've seen essays by his formerly estranged friend, Andrew Bostom, amassing evidence showing that as Muslims, Kurds should not be trusted:
Actual Conditions for Jews Circa Late 2018 in the Iraqi Kurdistan Paradise: Past as Prologue
Don’t Romanticize the Kurds
Not to mention that on Andrew Bostom's own blog, he had two additional essays on how bad (= how Islamic) the Kurds are:
Amir Taheri’s Grotesque Misrepresentation of the World War I Muslim Turkish-Kurdish Jihad Genocidal Killings of Armenians in Eastern Turkey: Debunked By Real-Time 1915 U.S. Consular Reports
How The “Philosemitic” Kurdistan Muslim Kurds Helped Jews “Celebrate” Rosh Hashanah in the Mid-19th Century
Dipping into the comments field of the latest Jihad Watch article on the Kurds, I was hoping for a little clarity instead of the usual schizophrenic muddle of the Counter-Jihad Maintream, and I was somewhat heartened by two instances:
ELI says
Dec 31, 2019 at 5:44 pm
I seem to remember that a few months ago the Kurds were basically just another bunch of shariah supremacists so what’s the issue here? https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/10/dont-romanticize-the-kurds
Reply gravenimage says
Dec 31, 2019 at 9:09 pm
This article is not wrong. But notice that it *does not* recommend penalizing anyone who has fought the Islamic State. These two articles do not contradict each other.
Notice "gravenimage" (about whom I've written a few times on this blog and on my former blog The Hesperado) is a long-time veteran commenter for years and years, while "ELI" is a name I've never seen before on Jihad Watch; and yet it's the long-time veteran commenter who throws cold water on the good question ELI brought up. Luckily, our old friend "The Big W" was there to add the necessary corrective:
Reply thebigW says
Jan 1, 2020 at 5:26 pm
Yeah, but Robert Spencer’s agreement with the Kurdish Muslim father of the Kurdish Muslim jihadist sure doesn’t help clear it up. The clear message is: “No Muslim jihadists — including Kurds — should be let back in to the UK or any Western country”
Then I noticed another heartening moment, when -- again -- another commenter I've never seen before (one "Harry Again") had to correct another long-time veteran Jihad Watcher, one "mortimer", a person who is either obtuse or himself a stealth jihadist:
mortimer says
Dec 31, 2019 at 8:34 pm
The Kurdish people have fought for their independence and have performed a service to the West in defeating ISIS on the ground. The Western powers should reward them with a country of their own.
Reply Harry Again says
Jan 1, 2020 at 5:09 am
There never was a “Kurdistan” to be independent. It’s as if all the Muslims in the USA/UK banded together to form their own separate enclave. They are terrorists in the same way as ISIS and have acted in exactly the same way.
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