Tuesday, September 18, 2018

The old "Nazi" analogy

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German Nazis enjoying morning coffee in Paris shortly after Hitler had conquered France.

A longtime veteran commenter on Jihad Watch, one "gravenimage", still policing comments fields for counter-jihadically incorrect speech (the problem is not so much her policing, as her selective conscience in this regard) zeroed in on a comment by one "eddie" (never seen him before in all my years of reading Jihad Watch comments), who made the preposterous statement:

The serial liar Trump is far more evil than Muslim men who are kind and thoughtful.

To this, gravenimage responded:

In other words, ‘Trump is far more evil than Nazis who are kind and thoughtful’.

Quickly (17 minutes later), eddie shot back:

gravenimage: In my opinion, comparing individual Muslims with Nazis is reprehensible. You need to get out and mix a bit. I’ve bedded a few Muslim women in my time, but I’m not sure I’d like to make love to a woman who’s a Nazi. By the way, not all Nazis ran death camps. Oskar Schindler was a member of the Nazi Party, and he was a very brave man who helped save thousands of Jews, 

As is typical of gravenimage, I've noticed, she didn't fully tackle eddie's point head-on, which was (probably unwittingly) palpating the problem of "all Muslims":

Muslims adhere to a vicious creed. Nazis adhere to a vicious creed.
There is, really, little difference–save that Islam has been around longer, so that more adherents have been born into this vicious creed. That is, really, the only serious contrast between them. Certainly, both ideologies are appallingly brutal and totalitarian.

Perhaps gravenimage should learn from the feet of the Master, Robert Spencer, about what motivates eddie's thought in this regard.  At this old essay of mine, she could read especially from the point where I wrote:

"As for Spencer's Nazi Germany analogy -- ..."

-- as I quote Spencer, arguing against readers of his blog who disagreed (back when Jihad Watch commenters dared to disagree with him), showing Spencer stubbornly defending points like:

Islam is more multifaceted than Nazism, and involves many beliefs, some good, some bad. You are comparing a huge 1400-year-old tradition over many nations with 12 years of Germany. If you met a Nazi in 1938, you would know what he thinks. But the fact is that when you meet a Muslim today you can have no certainty about what he thinks or knows.

Statements which show that Spencer has defended basically the point of view of eddie, not of gravenimage (nor of the other Jihad Watch regulars who piled on eddie along with her).

But she probably won't.  And when I brought this same point up in Jihad Watch comments (years ago, when I was still active there) and showed the proof I show in that old essay, gravenimage's friends attacked me for daring to criticize their Master, while she strangely was doing no comments policing that day...

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